What kind of joystick do use? I use a Saitek X36 use an run their SGE software. Some people like the SST software but I prefure the SGE. It has a better interface.
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Sat, February 7, 2004 - 5:45 AMBeen using a Logitech Wingman of various sub-types for quite a while now. I've been pretty satisfied with their longevity, and I like the ergonomics a lot better than the Saitek ones. If only I had the dough I'd get a Thrustmaster Cougar, but they're bloody expensive, and next on my list anyway is a TrackIR... :)
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Sat, February 7, 2004 - 7:17 AMI have been thinking about getting a TrackIR too. Have you used one before? How good are they really? -
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Sat, February 7, 2004 - 4:46 PMI haven't used one yet, but they've gotten nothing but positive reviews on the IL-2 and LO-MAC forums from people who have. Situational awareness is extremely important in flying, and flight sims are harder than in real life since you can't look around as easily. I figure anything that helps that out is a good thing. The only drawback to the TrackIR that I can see is the cost.
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Thu, September 2, 2004 - 2:27 PMyea, but when you "look around" using track IR you just see the room you are sittin in ;)
the never point out that fact in their demo movies....
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Sun, February 8, 2004 - 3:49 PMUsing a Logitech Wingman force 3D here too..it's great but I'd switch for an expensive HOTAS (even a Saitek X45) if I had the cash to spare. I hear the real hardcore ppl use CH sticks, but I'd "settle" with a Cougar... :-)
Just like u guys my next toy will probably be a TrackIR 2.
Made some tests with the different webcam software substitutes and they aren't quite 100%. Although, after a bit of tweaking it's good enough to get a feel for what it's like to move the cockpit view with your head. Veeeery cool. The fact that FB, Lomac and FS2004 have native support for the thing just makes it even sweeter. Btw, for you US residents, I think LOMAC comes with a $30 off voucher for Trackir2.
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Wed, February 11, 2004 - 2:02 PMWell, while my CH Products yoke and pedal set was "out of service" I used a Logitech Wingman 2 - the yoke and pedal set is much easier though.
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Fri, February 13, 2004 - 9:50 PMI've been using the TM Afterburner II for both combat and civilian flight sims for about 2 years with no problem. I got it because a) the Cougar wasn't available yet, a1) I couldn't afford it anyway :), b) there were no drivers for the early X45 and Win XP (I believe this has since been rectified) and c) it's very similar in form and functionality to the Saitek gear.
Pre-Win XP, I was a staunch user and advocate of the X36, but when the same issues kept cropping up requiring hardware replacement (specifically, one of the teeth breaking on the plastic rudder fork), I opted not to go for the X45. True, I am sacrificing a wider range of functionality and I miss my rotary knobs but the Afterburner II has proven to be a good little HOTAS set. If it broke tomorrow, I'd get it again (unless someone could prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that the X45 rudder fork is now being made of unbelievium, the strongest metal known to comic books).
I use the rudder rockers on the throttle rather than the twist grip. Just seems like it's begging for carpel tunnel...
PS - Flight Simulator 2004 is all that and a big, family pack bag of corn chips. Hope Lock-On is as good or better...
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Wild Wind (Real-world civilian flight) - ASEL, PA28-140/161, KPNE
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Sun, September 5, 2004 - 8:07 PMI uded to use the X36 but programming it for every game (I come across a lot of games) took its toll. Before they had the USB version, I had an issue with 3 duifferent X36's failing for no apparent reason.
Since then I have been using the Saitek Cyborg (USB.) Great joystick, and Windows recognizes it right away and knows what to do with it without any drivers.
Before that my favorite joy stick was the Wingman extreme. The resistance band made it cool because the stick fought back. I liked that because every car, airplane or helicopter I ever flew/drove had resistance when you try to stick over.
The Cyborg has enough buttons, all the axis, and is adjustable for right or left handed players---and it takes up no more almost no space (unlike the X36.)
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Thu, September 9, 2004 - 6:03 PMWell I own a MAC and a Dell for the MAC I the following setup for both. A CH yoke and Thrustmaster rudder pedals both serial port items. Rudder plugs into the yoke. So how do I use them on the Mac and Dell? Well I bought a Rockfire USB converter switched to mode 2,tada. This works with MSFS 9 on the Dell and X-Plane on both. By the way x-plane is the beter of the two to me. But I still use MSFS 9 when I am planning to fly my real plane to a location I have never been before. I fly the route using MSFS 9 then fly in for real. Now if I flew high and fast this would be a wasit of time. But I fly low and slow in my Forney Ercoupe or High and some what faster in a Cherokee 6.
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Tue, May 31, 2005 - 9:25 PMI use a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro (what a mouthful). It doesn't have force feedback, but for $35 it's a great stick - rudder, throttle, 12 programmable buttons, and the stick has an amazing feel to it. Just enough resistance to movement, and an extremely sturdy base.
No, I do not get large sacks with dollar signs on them from Logitech. :) I do love my joystick though, and it's made my flight sim experiences a blast. -
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Sat, June 14, 2008 - 9:39 PMI've got a Saitek X52 mounted on my simulator. It gives me all the controls I need to fly anything. I need better pedals though.
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